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# No it's not,
it's in an alpha-phase already. I've seen it when I went to E3.
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Thu 18 Sep 2003, 20:50, archived)
# its out at the end of the month
according to Valve anyway
(I helped save b3ta! lazygamer VS tittybiscuits, Thu 18 Sep 2003, 20:51, archived)
# That also is false
HL2 is scheduled for February 2004, speaking on realistic terms. Although most have announced as early as October.

/imagamedesignersoyoushouldtrustme
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Thu 18 Sep 2003, 20:52, archived)
# where have you been for the past 5 months
its completed, but sierra are pushing the game back to try and get more xmas sales

edit: you may be a games designer, but do you work for valve?

didnt think so
(I helped save b3ta! lo, the OTHER greebo warrior, Thu 18 Sep 2003, 20:53, archived)
# I've been working
in the industry with them ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Thu 18 Sep 2003, 20:54, archived)
# no offence, but i'll rather listen to valve's statements than yours
(I helped save b3ta! lo, the OTHER greebo warrior, Thu 18 Sep 2003, 20:57, archived)
# then amazon have explaining to do
www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009ATWC/ref=sr_aps_videogames_1_1/202-6335780-2153404
(I helped save b3ta! lazygamer VS tittybiscuits, Thu 18 Sep 2003, 20:56, archived)
# valve are probably gonna release it through steam on the 30th

sierra/vivendi/whatever are saying it'll be in the shops in oct/nov
(I helped save b3ta! lo, the OTHER greebo warrior, Thu 18 Sep 2003, 20:53, archived)
# THAT sounds likely
VERY likely
(I helped save b3ta! lazygamer VS tittybiscuits, Thu 18 Sep 2003, 20:57, archived)
# That DEFINITLY
sounds like the most likely thing!
Gabe Newell in a recent interview said it WILL be out on the 30th, but shops will be informed before they receive it....which sounds to me like they want to make more from Steam!
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