ooh. Out of curiousity. Does anyone know if my use of kazaa is legal...My missus is editting a TV show this week and has given me a list of 100 songs she wants to use as a music bed.
I'm downloading them tonight and burning a CD for her.
She's going to fill in a form and pay the record companies for their use on TV. (There's standard procedures for this stuff.)
So. The record company is being paid - what laws are being broken?
(I'm downloading them tonight and burning a CD for her.
She's going to fill in a form and pay the record companies for their use on TV. (There's standard procedures for this stuff.)
So. The record company is being paid - what laws are being broken?
rob,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 0:56,
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You are only paying public broadcasting royaltiesbut you didn't pay for the recording of the material in the first place. That might be the stickler.
(,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 0:58,
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if I borrowed them from the public librarywould we be in the clear?
(Not that I'm going to)
((Not that I'm going to)
rob,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:04,
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Is that the excuseyou're going to give as to how you first got the tracks?
(,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:08,
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can't offer any knowledgeable legal advicebut say you recorded them all off the radio.
If pressed further - archived Internet Radio, in fact your own archived internet radio show where you played all sorts of music from various places and had all these songs.
(If pressed further - archived Internet Radio, in fact your own archived internet radio show where you played all sorts of music from various places and had all these songs.
Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:08,
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your still making a mechanical recording of the songstherefore the MCPS can collect (however recorded radio shows are rarely targeted unless made commercially available.)
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Muns,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:19,
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umm...i dunno actually
common sense says you're ok ... but that doesn't mean anything where laws are concerned
(,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 0:59,
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common sense says you're ok ... but that doesn't mean anything where laws are concerned
that might depend on what you do with the cd andyour downloaded bits... but i don't see why id wouldn't be...
not that i'm an expert.
how will she know exactly which ones she used to pay them?
(not that i'm an expert.
how will she know exactly which ones she used to pay them?
alistair,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:00,
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in the US that's fineor so i'm told, but in the UK its illegal to download any copyright material from the web without written consent. so if she wrote a letter to the record labels like "need to use kazaa to get 100 songs of yours, IOU some money soon" probably would solve it.
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lazygamer VS tittybiscuits,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:01,
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I'm now thinkingthat this was nothing more than an ellaborate rouse to show how little we know about the plethora of laws we're breaking.
Ignorance is bliss but not an excuse in the eyes of the law. I, for one, couldn't care less.
(,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:04,
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Ignorance is bliss but not an excuse in the eyes of the law. I, for one, couldn't care less.
if they catch mei'll pay up. fair cop.
( lazygamer VS tittybiscuits,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:05,
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same here.but I ain't paying for the games i've taken days to download only for them not to work properly!
(,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:09,
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yeah but you'll have to pay for all the stuff you alowed to be uploaded to otherpeeps as well
( alistair,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:25,
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interesting onebut the medium in which rob is looking at using the recordings means that the record label would hardly see a penny, and the PRS would distribute the lot to the artist as they're the copyright holder..
( Muns,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:22,
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The two main bodies you'll have to deal withare the MCPS and the PRS (mechanical copyrights protection society and the performing rights society) the PRS collects royalties from TV stations and film theatres, pubs, nightclubs, anywhere public area in which music is player, and distributes to the artists.
the only problem may be the MCPS (which always provides a cut to the artist when a recorded work is copied to a form of media) the transfer from internet to the eventual media via your computer can be seen as a stage of recording, data transfer for mastering or temporary storage. as long as you delete any music after the transfer to the final master copy you are violating no laws.
hope that made sense, i am a little wasted.
(the only problem may be the MCPS (which always provides a cut to the artist when a recorded work is copied to a form of media) the transfer from internet to the eventual media via your computer can be seen as a stage of recording, data transfer for mastering or temporary storage. as long as you delete any music after the transfer to the final master copy you are violating no laws.
hope that made sense, i am a little wasted.
Muns,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:14,
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glad to helpcopyright laws are quite possibly the most messed up confused laws going, no clear definitions for most of them anywhere.
( Muns,
Mon 19 Jan 2004, 1:44,
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