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# Yeah he is a twat
But as nobody else has claimed ownership, and nobody has made any money out of it.

What is he complaining about!

Tell everyone it's his cat. Fine. Tell people to stop using the picture, that's just petty. He should be pleased something of his has become so popular!
(I helped save b3ta! Netspore, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:22, archived)
# he does have a point though
still, I like to rebel against little things for no particular reason, so I'll just be joining this side of the argument
(1, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:29, archived)
# Which side?
the one were we get to use no hands?
Or the one where we dont?
(I helped save b3ta! Giant bunny jumping out like a large happy tourettes rabbit, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:31, archived)
# where we do
(1, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:32, archived)
# and what point is that?
(Mr. Partyhat, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:33, archived)
# that there are copyright rules
(1, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:34, archived)
# Well
Why did the twat not do it to start with?
could have saved a bit of aggro
but he would have got rid of some of the world fluffyness.
I need to get some sleep...
(I helped save b3ta! Giant bunny jumping out like a large happy tourettes rabbit, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:37, archived)
# To give him the benefit of the doubt*
he could well have put a copyright notice on the original image when it first slipped onto the web. That doesn't stop somebody else from copying it and posting it somewhere like ratemykitten.

(I think nohands is overrated anyway - clive is far superior)

(* = to drag this argument out until it drops into the archives)
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:45, archived)
# Except that's not how copyright works
You don't have to put a copyright notice on something for it to be copyrighted. See www.bitlaw.com/copyright/obtaining.html for more information, particularly the "Automatic Creation" paragraph. Since 1978, a copyright notice has only been a formality, not actually required.
(elsewhere, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 19:23, archived)
# A point in every direction
is the same as no point at all.
(A Wooden Leg Named Smith, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 13:15, archived)
# wow
deep
(I helped save b3ta! manolith hooray for me, Wed 25 Feb 2004, 16:00, archived)
# I never told anybody to stop using the picture.
Where in my post did I tell anybody to stop using the picture? I pointed out that posting something to the internet is not the same thing as putting it in the public domain, and that resources exist for finding out how to get permission to use material in derivative works. I never said that anyone should stop using the image, because I know that the person who took the original photo doesn't care, and occasionally gets a kick out of seeing his kitten photo used in a good photoshop job or flash animation.
(elsewhere, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 19:18, archived)