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# How long till fruition?
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Mon 23 Mar 2009, 15:50, archived)
# I'll tell you when mark II is complete
Mark one was a collapsed mess.
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Mon 23 Mar 2009, 15:54, archived)